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Sue Jankowski: Hello everyone, welcome to BH TV channel 4 in Palos Heights. I’m Sue Jankowski and we are here with a new show and it is all about skin care, and our guest today is Jill Moss Stetson who is the owner of Skin Trust in town. Jill, thanks for coming to our program today.

Jill Stetson: Thank you for having me sue. I’m delighted to be here.

Sue Jankowski: Well this is great. Now I want to say something before we get started, you know everybody has skin, and we’re always concerned about you know are we doing the right things for our skin and now that it’s winter that seems like even a more difficult time for skin.

Jill Stetson: It is.

Sue Jankowski: And then in the summer time we’re worried about the sun and everything, so skincare is something that everybody worries about and I think as we get older, we even worry about our skin more, so we’re really lucky to have Jill come to us today and talk about things you can do to help yourself and just kind of educate us about products and things that are available. So first of all, Jill, I guess you know people hear the word esthetician that’s a big word.

Jill Stetson: It is.

Sue Jankowski: And you know some people you know maybe they’re teenager or even an older person might go to a dermatologist, so what is the difference between an esthetician and a dermatologist?

Jill Stetson: It’s a great question. An esthetician is somebody who has been trained to help you care for your skin, so that you can maintain healthy beautiful skin. We are trained on products, product formulations, we can provide services like a facial, microdermabrasion. There’s a number of other services available, but we do not diagnose, so I could have someone come in and they could hey what’s this on my skin? And I’ll say you know what, you need to see your doctor. I don’t diagnose and that that is what I say, or they may have something that’s suspicious and I’ll say you know what you really might want to go consider going to see you dermatologist and have that looked at, because the dermatologist is trained medically. They diagnose, and they treat medical conditions. An esthetician is all about how to care for your skin. We help you navigate the skincare world out there that is really complicated and sophisticated.

Sue Jankowski: I’m glad to hear you say that because you go in and Jill and I talked a little bit about this before we started the program today. You just go, and you think well, I want to improve my skin, I’m seeing a little wrinkle here and there. I want to, dryness, I want to help, but boy out there there’s a million products which are the ones I should be using? I think we need to have a little bit of education as how do you care for your skin, and your skin is also just not in your face, you know it’s everywhere.

Jill Stetson: Yes. It is. It is a large organ on your body. And the other thing that’s interesting is it’s the organ that’s exposed.

Sue Jankowski: Right.

Jill Stetson: So, you were talking about winter, which and we’ll get into that a little bit later. It is horrific on skin. But when we work with people about how you care for your skin, we’re talking about the ingredients you use on your skin and the steps you take to care for your skin, and I really take time to educate people on what’s your daily regimen. What are you doing to care for your skin, and that’s so important, and I think that’s the most important thing you can do because think about it. You treat your skin hopefully twice a day, morning and night, 365 days a year. That’s a lot of care.

Sue Jankowski: That is a lot of care.

Jill Stetson: So, you want to make sure if you’re concerned about your care, your skin rather, you’re using the right products, and you may have been using products for years and they’re and they’re working great for you. Then good. And I say to people if they don’t hurt you and you’re happy with them, stay with them, but you may think no I want to change a little bit. So, I really start with what are the steps you’re taking. And you can start in the morning. You want to cleanse your skin, then you want to use serums on your skin, then you want to use an eye cream on your skin, followed with a moisturizer and SPF.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, let’s start right back at the beginning. Okay, you want to cleanse your skin. You know, we grew up with soap and water and we’re you know we’re using that on our face, you know as a child, your mom was up there with the washcloth.

Jill Stetson: Oh, you betcha.

Sue Jankowski: So now obviously, that probably isn’t the best idea.

Jill Stetson: It’s not.

Sue Jankowski: How are we cleansing our skin?

Jill Stetson: Well you want to use a cleanser that is appropriate for your skin type, and there’s all kinds of ingredients out there, but what kind of skin do you have? Are you mature? Are you aging? Are you oily? Are you combination? Do you have rosacea? Do you have breakout prone skin? So, you want to look for key ingredients that are gonna be right in a product that is formulated for your skin, but you’re absolutely right, Sue. I cringe when I hear someone say they’re using bar soap, because that just brings the alkaline level of your skin up so high, you will dry your skin out beyond belief.

Sue Jankowski: Yeah. But, didn’t we all do it at one point?

Jill Stetson: Yes. Yes, we did. So, that’s what you really wanna look for in a cleanser. All the products, you want to look for what’s your skin type and an esthetician can help you understand what is your skin type. normal, oily, combo, or the other conditions that I’ve said: Aging, Mature, and then they’ll make some recommendations, and if they, they should be looking at what you’re using and making sure that those are working for you and they can make some suggestions if you’re open if that’s what you want.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, so that first step is doing a nice cleanse of your skin, because my understanding is unless you’re really cleansing your skin well, all those other products you’re applying really aren’t going to do much, because it can’t get into your pores.

Jill Stetson: Well, that’s one part of it and then there’s another step called exfoliation that really helps with that. But, let me go on and tell you, to explain a little bit of what you do at night time.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, yes.

Jill Stetson: At night time, you’re gonna cleanse again, but you’re gonna cleanse twice. You’re gonna cleanse once to get all of the makeup, and if you don’t wear makeup, you’re gonna get the toxins off of your skin, because unfortunately, our environment has pollution. You want to get that off of your skin, and then really clean your skin with the second cleanse. Then, you follow the same. Your serums, your moisturizer, your eye cream, but going back to exfoliation, then you should use that as your second cleanse twice to three times a week, and that will then get all of those dead cells off, and unfortunately as we age, our natural sloughing product process changes. It slows down, so we need to do that, and you want to do it at night because night time is a restorative time. Nighttime is when your body is regentrified, it’s refueling itself, it’s correcting. And there’s research that shows if you do not clean your skin at night and you go to bed with makeup on, you will age much faster and if you have a condition like breakout prone skin, oh my, you’re just gonna aggravate it.

Sue Jankowski: Oh so, get that makeup off if you wear it?

Jill Stetson: Yes.

Sue Jankowski: That is really going to damage your skin?

Jill Stetson: It is. And you know it’s so hard because we’re tired, we work hard, we’re very active lives. About the last thing we wanna do is clean our skin at night, but it is really important. It is.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, and probably once you get your routine going, I’m guessing it doesn’t really take all that long.

Jill Stetson: It doesn’t. It doesn’t. And you know, people want simplicity. They don’t want ten steps to their skin care, and in the, products have changed, so you don’t have to have that, and you can have something that is very simple and very meaningful, and you’ll get the results that you want.

Sue Jankowski: Now, the cleansing time, is that like a product you’re using that is washing your skin more gently than soap and water? Is it like a cotton ball, and you’re wiping your face with something? What kind of things are there?

Jill Stetson: Usually what you’ll do with cleanser is there’s creamy cleansers, there’s gel based cleansers, there’s what they call bar in the jar that can be used for different kinds of things too, but for the most off, most of the time, you’ll take a little cleanser, you’ll put it in your, on your fingers, add a little water, and gently massage it. You don’t need to use a washcloth, in fact you don’t want to. Sometimes they can, they can get dirty, they can spread germs, they can have detergent that’s very irritating in them. So, you just want to take your fingers and massage the cleanser into your face, your neck and your décolleté, and then rinse.

Sue Jankowski: Oh, Okay.

Jill Stetson: And sometimes, depends on your skin type, I may have somebody who might be drier, a little bit of dehydration in the morning, in the winter time, I may have them just use a toner on their skin.

Sue Jankowski: Okay.

Jill Stetson: And not cleanse, not put water. Water can be drying to your skin if it’s overused.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, so okay, you’re cleansing your skin now you just used the word toner, and I do see that product I can’t say that I’ve ever used it, because I don’t know what to do with it, like what is a toner?

Jill Stetson: Well, you know why you’re absolutely fine, and if your skin is worked out for you, it’s fine. The history of toners is interesting because toners years ago, and I can remember them they were always part of the skincare regimen, because they needed to be used on your skin because the cleanser at the time changed the PH. So, they used a toner to bring the PH of your skin back, but that’s not necessary anymore. The cleansers are more sophisticated, they don’t change the PH, so I recommend someone using a toner if there’s a reason, like if you want to use a toner in the morning during the winter time, so you keep your skin hydrated. Maybe your combo skin, maybe you’re concerned about the large pores in your t-zone. I might have somebody just use a toner there, but you don’t have to use one. And as I said, people want simplicity.

Sue Jankowski: They do. Yeah. They want to be able to do it.

Jill Stetson: Yes.

Sue Jankowski:  They want to be able to follow a program and be successful with it.

Jill Stetson: Absolutely. Absolutely.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, so now our skin is cleansed, and then you mentioned serums.

Jill Stetson: Yeah.

Sue Jankowski: So, you look at the serums, and you’re like I mean is this all over your face? Is it specific to the oily skin? The dry skin? There’s different serums for different people. I’m assuming maybe, I don’t know.

Jill Stetson: There are. A general description of a serum. A serum is a product that’s going into your skin to treat. It has a smaller molecular weight, and if you use several serums, you always want to go from clear to color, and that’s how you apply them to your skin, but they’re used for all kinds of reasons. One thing that’s very popular in skin care and very effective in skin care is to use a hyaluronic acid. Hyaluronic acid is a serum. It comes with different molecular weights to it. You could use a serum that’s for acne that is a base of salicylic acid that needs to go on to your skin. You could use a peptide, because you’re worried about your fine lines and wrinkles or you’re worried about how firm your skin is. So, there’s all kinds of serums out there that are, you know we recommend based on what you want to accomplish with your skin, but they have to go on right after you cleanse, because you want them to go deeper into your skin.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, so that serum is really specific to your personal needs, and so you need to get that figured out.

Jill Stetson: And some people don’t need a serum.

Sue Jankowski: And some people don’t, oh okay, so that’s important to know whether you really need that or not. Okay, and then after the serum we do some eye cream which so, if you’re doing a moisturizer and you’re putting it all over your face, is there a difference between just like I’m gonna put the moisturizer around my eyes? Does it make a difference if it’s an eye cream or a moisturizer?

Jill Stetson: Well, it’s good to have something on your eyes and if you just want to use your moisturizer, you can, but let me tell you a little about the eye area. The eye area is different than the rest of your face. It is thinner, it shows our lifestyle issues, it ages thirty percent faster than the rest of your face. So, I encourage people to take very good care of their eye area and the skin care products are so sophisticated that you can buy a product that would just help you prevent fine lines, it will prevent you from having puffiness, which may be from using too much salt, you may not have had enough sleep, so you may have some dark circles. They can help you control that, or you can have an eye cream that’s really going to correct. That means your skin is maybe not as firm as it was, you have more fine lines and wrinkles than you want, then you would use a product like that. But, I know I was twenty-five when I started to use the eye cream, because I just had some fine lines here. I wasn’t necessarily of the age, but it was the way my face was moving when I smiled. They’re my expression lines. So, you might just have that, and you might just want to take good care of that, but I encourage people to take care of their eye area, because it is different.

Sue Jankowski: It is. Okay, it’s just, and you can tell as you’re you know looking at yourself that this is a much thinner, more delicate area than the rest of it.

Jill Stetson: It is more delicate.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, so we get an eye cream. Is that sort of at least is the eye cream kind of a thing I can pick out or that is specific to each person as well?

Jill Stetson: Well, again it becomes specific. It’s better to use one like if you wanted to use what we call over-the-counter product. That’s a step in the right direction, but if you’re more concerned, you want to make sure you preserve what you have or you’re more concerned about correcting something, you probably would want to step it up to something that has more active ingredients in it.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, so we want to go out and find that eye cream that suits you, and then after that, we use the moisturizer and you know there’s a million moisturizers out there and if you have dry skin, do you need a moisturizer?

Jill Stetson: You do.

Sue Jankowski: And even if you have oily skin, do you need a moisturizer?

Jill Stetson: You do.

Sue Jankowski: You do. Okay, you just need a moisturizer.

Jill Stetson: Well, and moisturizers is almost a generic word we use in skin care and they’ve changed so much over the years. You know what they were when skin care first came around, they are just so much different and it’s fun to study the history of skin care and see that, but moisturizers again depend upon the type of skin you have, so you may have that you’re just concerned that you’re dry. You’re you know maybe going through the aging process that’s accelerated a little bit. Then you want a moisturizer that’s going to keep the moisture in, and they were meant to occlude the skin, so if you were to put a serum on, you put a moisturizer on it to keep it in, but you also want to keep out the bad stuff in the environment: the wind, the cold, the furnace heat in the winter. You want to keep that out of your skin. So, you may want something that helps you with that, you may be oily and you’re oily, but you don’t want to dry your skin out completely because you’ll overwork your sebaceous glands and you’ll cause more breakouts, so you want a very different kind of moisturizer on your skin, but one thing that I find when I work with people is people will come in and say I’m sensitive, and they are, but they’re sensitive not because they’ve had a reaction to an ingredient, but because they have irritated this outer layer of their skin by not wearing the right moisturizer, and you can heal that and then they can use a vitamin C, they could use a retinol and not have a reaction, but until you do that, anything you put on your skin is really going to irritate it. And the general rule is that we have two seasons here in Chicago. We have summer and winter. In the winter, you have to change your moisturizer. You have to use something that’s more protective in the summer, humidity levels are high, you have much more moisture in the environment. You don’t need the same moisturizer. So, I really encourage people: there’s two seasonal changes for moisturizers. Sometimes you have to change the cleanser too, but most often is some moisturizer.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, and that makes a lot of sense because the seasons are so vastly different here in the Midwest.

Jill Stetson: They are.

Sue Jankowski: And but you do, I can see where moisturizers I needed year-round or, and a lot of those moisturizers now I think have like a sun protection in some of them.

Jill Stetson: They can. They can, and that certainly is good. The general rule in skin care though is if you’re using a sun screen, you want it to be separate from your moisturizer, so you get the best protection possible. The companies don’t, on the medical grade side, they don’t believe that in the moisturizer there’s enough SPF and that you’re using enough. So, it’s really an additional step and we still keep things very simple, but we do keep it as an additional step just to make sure you get the right protection.

Sue Jankowski: Okay. Well that makes sense too. Okay, so now we’re using moisturizer, then another step is the that sunscreen over that.

Jill Stetson: Yes, over that.

Sue Jankowski: Now do you recommend, I mean would you use a sunscreen in the winter? I mean we’re not out in the sun very much.

Jill Stetson: Yes. I have very, very specific recommendations on sunscreens. Sunscreen is used every single day all year long.

Sue Jankowski: Oh, okay. I guess that answers the question. I mean I just feel like what do we, look at today particularly, you know it’s cloudy, it’s rainy.

Jill Stetson: Well, and you know for people just to make sure that they get into a habit and they make it as easy as possible. Just make it part of your routine, but here is the truth about the sunscreen: people will say well I’m really not out in the sun, you know but you are. You drive, an example: You drive to and from work. Well you do that over the course of years. You get a lot of exposure. I can, I have clients that come in, and one side I see sun damage on and one side I don’t. Car, Car window, and I can tell. So, I say to people just get into the routine. Wear it every day. In the winter, if we have a sunny day, that sun will hit that snow and bounce right to your face and can be equally intense on your skin, so you just wanna use it every day. Here’s a little something else on the sunscreen and this is, this is a hard part, and this is what is so, so often we don’t do, but wear it every day all year long if you’re in extended sun. Say you’re gardening, you’re going to a baseball game, you’re going to the beach. Then you have to reapply every ninety minutes.

Sue Jankowski: Oh, because it just kind of melts away because of the heat and sun?

Jill Stetson: It’s not, it’s not formulated. No sunscreen is formulated to be effective beyond ninety minutes. And people will say well I had my hat on. Wonderful. Keep your hat on. You still have to reapply, because they’ll have their hat on and they’ll get sunburned and they’ll wonder why, and that’s it. And I know it’s a pain, but that’s a rule.

Sue Jankowski: That is a rule.

Jill Stetson: If you really are concerned about the sun, and the sun is not your friend with skin.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, well I mean look at we just, I feel like maybe it’s just my own awareness, but you know for years and years and years, heck everyone’s out in the sun. Nobody’s really using sunscreen, even on my children growing up, I don’t think I ever I mean unless we were at the beach for the day, I don’t think really, we ever applied sunscreen. I mean it just wasn’t a thing.

Jill Stetson: I can remember years ago seeing ski, I don’t think, or Coppertone, that’s all we had.

Sue Jankowski: Right. Right, that’s not great.

Jill Stetson: It’s not great. I can attest to that. It’s not great, but there is very, there are very good sunscreens, and they have you know you have a chemical sunscreen, you have a physical sunscreen, so there’s different ones and you can get one again that’s appropriate for your skin. And you don’t need anything greater than a thirty. You can use a thirty to a fifty. Incrementally, the difference in sun protection between those two numbers: very little, but if you go higher than a fifty, you’ll put more chemicals on your skin.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, so the people are like I always wear an eighty or one hundred. That really doesn’t make any difference.

Jill Stetson: It doesn’t make any difference, and you put more chemicals, and it’s very interesting because the FDA started to regulate sunscreens and choose that in 2013. It’s the only product they regulate in skin care, and they grandfathered some companies in that had a higher SPF than fifty, but they were grandfathered in. I think over time you’ll see that go away, but you have to file it. Anything from a thirty to fifty, every day reapply in extended sun.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, so that’s you know really important, and we’re gonna get in the habit. That’s something too a lot of this is just habit. I mean you brush your teeth, you floss, and you do all those things at night, so this is just part of it.

Jill Stetson: It’s just part of it.

Sue Jankowski: And also, I think that if you don’t wait until you’re exhausted, and it’s 10:30 at night, and you’re like oh, I just really can’t do all that, and you kind of step up that process of doing the cleansing and gong through the steps earlier in the evening, so you’re not so weary.

Jill Stetson: It’s an excellent point, and I encourage people too because we are so tired, we live busy lives, and I know the feeling, and I’m an esthetician, but I still get in there, but boy there’s nights I wish I didn’t have to, but I do.

Sue Jankowski: But you do. Okay. Now, so that’s the morning and you discussed the evening, and you say double cleanser. Okay, could you explain that?

Jill Stetson: You want to remove with the first cleanse, you remove your makeup. And even if you don’t wear makeup, you remove the toxins. We have a lot of pollution in the environment that can cause free radical damage, and I won’t get real technical, but that can go into your skin, and it can break down the enzymes to protect our collagen and our elasticity. So, you want to make sure that you remove that from your skin, and then go in and really clean your skin. So, when you use your products, you’re getting the benefit.

Sue Jankowski: Okay. So, you just wanna do that, actually you’re following up with the same steps that you did in the morning, and I have to say when I follow these steps, boy I feel like actually there is an actual difference when you look at yourself and you’re like oh, my skin looks pretty good. And so it’s just getting in the habit, any habits are hard to like get started.

Jill Stetson: They are.

Sue Jankowski: But once you do, it is so worthwhile.

Jill Stetson: It is.

Sue Jankowski: And you do want to have, I mean it’s so easy to not do thing when you’re twenty and thirty, but as you get to forty and fifty and beyond, you’re like oh gosh my skin is this way or that way. Can I repair that damage? And can people? I mean you’re like a little, you have like a little creases here and there. Can these daily skin care regimens help you improve that look?

Jill Stetson: You can. It can. The skin care world is very, very sophisticated and as estheticians, we’re trained by these companies to really understand the ingredients, and what skin types to use them on, and what results you can expect from them. So, the products really can, depending upon how much correction you want, you might have to use the products with facial treatments too to get the best results, and then you keep it up through using the products. And I say to the people in their twenties, thirties, maybe early forties, you have the advantage of such wonderful products out there. You don’t need a lot on your skin. Protect your skin from the sun, use a good cleanser, use an eye cream and a good moisturizer, and you probably won’t be doing some of the things all of us have been doing.

Sue Jankowski: Yeah, I mean look at over time, things have really changed all for the better. Okay. So, now obviously from what you said there’s a difference, a big difference between what I could get at you know a medical grade product, or maybe products that you have in your business, or going to the local drugstore. So, say I don’t really, I’m not gonna go see an esthetician right now in this time of my life, or I don’t really need to see a medical doctor, dermatologist, but I do really wanna take care of my skin. When we’re at the drugstore, what are we looking for? Like what should the product tell us about something that would be helpful if you’re not using anything?

Jill Stetson: I think at the drugstore, look for something that’s gentle, has moisturizing capabilities. And again, it’s gonna be different on your skin if you are prone to some breakout. Salicylic acid is very good. Some of the benzoyl products are a little too strong, but salicylic acid is very good, and make sure you just don’t let your skin get too dry, but hyaluronic acid is a huge ingredient for all skin types and skin care right now, and there are various products that have that. So, that would be good.

Sue Jankowski: Something to look for?

Jill Stetson: Yes. Yes.

Sue Jankowski: Okay, and if you’re feeling like you do that and you’re still not exactly satisfied with your results, it might be time to go out and get a little extra help from an esthetician that would you know steer you in the right way. And it doesn’t mean you have to go and have like a weekly appointment or a monthly appointment or anything like that I wouldn’t think, I think once someone gets you started, maybe you could you know improve yourself by following your regime.

Jill Stetson: Absolutely. You know what, everyone is an individual, and in my work, I structure every program to meet the individual needs of that person. Some people would like to come every month, some people don’t. That’s perfectly fine. But, I try to develop something that’s the best for what they want to accomplish, and the means in which they want to do that, and it’s very personal. It’s not cookie cutter. There’s not one recipe fits all, and so I try to tailor to what their needs are and what they want to accomplish.

Sue Jankowski: Well you look at people, and I mean everybody’s so different with their, how they look, so I can see where each person needs their own thing, and their own products, and their own other than following a certain system by which you know you’re going to make your face improve.

Jill Stetson: And their skin is different, and their lifestyle is different, and genetics play a part in it. So, yeah. There’s a lot of variables. Very different.

Sue Jankowski: Now, we have skin other places besides our face.

Jill Stetson: Yes, we do.

Sue Jankowski: So, we’ve got all the skin of our whole body. Now, we’re applying moisturizers to that, and that’s going to help us I’m assuming.

Jill Stetson: It will. It will, but here’s what I say. Should I give my winter skin care too?

Sue Jankowski: You should.

Jill Stetson: I think you’re absolutely right. Our whole body, and we forget about it, and we cover it up in the winter, and we think oh I don’t have to worry about it. It’s all covered. Well, you want it to be nice in the summer time when it comes out. You do. So, one of my favorites and this is very natural. It’s called dry brushing. You look it up on the web. There’s many articles about it, and what it does is, you use a brush, and this is a dry brush. It is soft, but firm bristles. And what you do is you just put your hand in it like this and you brush your extremities, and you brush towards your heart. So, you brush your arms, you brush your legs, you can do your tush. Don’t, it’s hard to get your back and don’t do your torso. This skin is too sensitive, and don’t do your face with it. But, right before you get into the shower, just do this and what it will do is you will see the dead skin fly off, but more importantly, it stimulates circulation. It’s very good for your lymphatic system. So, you do that for five to ten minutes, and then into your skin, you don’t want to, if you a little bit irritate it, then you stop it and everyone’s a little different with that. Then you get into the shower, go through your shower process, and then step out and then dry off and your skin is damp, and then put a lovely oil like a jojoba oil on. I love jojoba oil. It’s my favorite, and you can get that at many, many places, because it really works very naturally with your body. And then you can put an essential oil. A lavender, a frankincense, if you’d like to do that so you like a little scent with it. And I recommend that you do it once to twice a week. It does take a little longer when you do your shower, but if you can at least once a week fit that in, it’s wonderful for your skin, and we forget about our bodies.

Sue Jankowski: Yeah, well you know we think about it now in the winter particularly because you see that dry skin.

Jill Stetson: We do.

Sue Jankowski: Sometimes, you know your hands get really rough, I think you know everyone notices you’re putting on a scarf, or your clothes all of a sudden, it’s kind of rough against.

Jill Stetson: Yeah.

Sue Jankowski: So, you want to take care of that with your hands as well.

Jill Stetson: And you won’t get the effectiveness of the oil unless you get the dead off, and then what the oil will do is keep that dampness, that moisture into your skin. It will occlude your skin, so that moisture stays in your skin, and it makes your skin much softer, much nicer. And I know that we all cringe about the creepiness it can happen to our skin over time. It will improve it. It may not take it completely away, but it will help it.

Sue Jankowski: And don’t be afraid of oil, right?

Jill Stetson: Good oils.

Sue Jankowski: Because they think pouring oil on your body, that’s gonna be kind of messy and whatever.

Jill Stetson: Well, you can get it so it’s in like a little pump, and then you can put it on and rub it on, so there’s a lot of different ways to do it and you can find it at various locations, and just as these brushes, you can find them. Amazon has these. I’m sure drugstores or other organizations have them too. Easy to find. Good oils are easy to find too. You want it pure.

Sue Jankowski: Okay. Pure jojoba oil.

Jill Stetson: Jojoba is my favorite.

Sue Jankowski: It is her favorite. That sounds good. You know, I want to talk about one more thing before we go, because you know we are putting these products on ourselves, and we’re trusting that they’re good, but who regulates these skin care products? Is it the government doing that? Who does that?

Jill Stetson: Now, as I mentioned earlier, the government only regulates SPF, and that started in 2013. So, no one is really regulating the drugs, or the skin care products. No one is. So, you have to be very careful out there, and some of it reading the label of products, and knowing a little bit about that, and here’s some quick guidelines for you. The first ingredient on a product label is going to be the actual base of the product. It’s gonna be water or it’s gonna be aloe Vera, but most often water. The next four to five ingredients are gonna be the actives. Any ingredient after that down to the last two or three, you have about one percent in there, and then you have preservatives. So, if a label says it has retinol in it, you want to make sure that retinol is in the first four or five ingredients, or you’re really not getting a lot.

Sue Jankowski: Oh, Okay.

Jill Stetson: They’re truthful. It’s in the product.

Sue Jankowski: Yes.

Jill Stetson: But, there’s not much in it. So, it’s almost like a little self-regulation or that’s when you can work with an esthetician. Even if you want somebody to just look at your products, and make sure you’re getting something from them.

Sue Jankowski: Yeah. You want it. If you’re purchasing them, you make taking the effort to apply them, you want them to be something that works.

Jill Stetson: Absolutely. When I work with people, I always say, skin care is an investment. Make sure you get the return that you want from it, and that’s why we’re here, because you know just in the ten years that I’ve been in the business, it has changed immensely.

Sue Jankowski: Yeah. I know that it has. I mean you see the difference of products that are out, the knowledge we have about the sun and what we should be doing, and just taking good care of your skin.

Jill Stetson: Yes. Absolutely.

Sue Jankowski: Well, I’m really happy to say that we’re gonna have Jill here another few times, and talk about more things about skin care, because there’s really a lot to know. And I think all of us really want to look our best, and feel our best, and know that we look good, and as we’re getting, some of us, me, getting older.

Jill Stetson: I’m right there with you.

Sue Jankowski: We want to look as good as we possibly can.

Jill Stetson: Absolutely.

Sue Jankowski: So, we’re gonna address some other things in upcoming programs. I hope you will watch us, because Jill has a lot of information that I think is gonna help you just become more satisfied with yourself, and that’s really what it’s all about.

Jill Stetson: And that is what it’s all about.

Sue Jankowski: Yeah. Well, thanks for being here, Jill.

Jill Stetson: Thank you, Sue.

Sue Jankowski: And giving us some really great tips and explanations, and kind of taking the mystery out of what is this and what is that.

Jill Stetson: I’m glad to do it.

Sue Jankowski: And so, watch us on our next shows coming up, and your skin care programs, and we’ll see you. Thanks for watching us this time and thank you Jill from Skin Trust right here in Palos Heights. Okay, thank you buh bye.


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